I’d like to update you about a few things to do with this podcast, and let you know about some things you might want to get involved in. Specifically, I’ll be talking about five topics:

1. Where this podcast is going, and the Pan-Political series in particular
2. Online live show recording of Pan-Political Episode 10/9 (July 5 2025 Aus, July 4 US)
3. Financial support: Patreon
4. Upcoming courses: Sexuality, Taboos, and Kink for Therapists, and an intro to Process Work
5. Why I stopped running Curious Creatures’ old workshops. (Spoiler: Can’t say much).

Links:

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/curiousconversationsaboutsex

Upcoming online live show recording: https://www.facebook.com/events/1034160991497938

Upcoming course “Sexuality, Taboos and Kink for Therapists” by Rog, Curious Creatures

Normal registration: https://community.processwork.org/plans/1538264?bundle_token=2d522268ac225e79e6c83cf96e1f3341&utm_source=manual

Equity registration: https://community.processwork.org/plans/1538268?bundle_token=11df3f1f2b51506bbe722673e88165e4&utm_source=manual

Upcoming intro to Process Work course (not by CC)

50% off this course if both booked together, normal registration: https://community.processwork.org/plans/1538301?bundle_token=e7aad8dfb258073ac52f0d42b8a994a4&utm_source=manual

50% off this course if both booked together, equity registration:

https://community.processwork.org/plans/1538307?bundle_token=571ba451a00285641e2cd4931be943ea&utm_source=manual

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/curiousconversationsaboutsex

Why is this ‘Pan-Political’ perspective so different to the mainstream of gender equality thinking?

How could anyone have not noticed that in this world, the evidence overwhelmingly shows that women and minority genders suffer, and men have extreme advantages? How come almost every article you read, and almost every gender expert, agrees that the situation is not at all complicated or nuanced, rather, it’s very simple to understand that it’s a man’s world?

How come some great points have been raised in this podcast series that haven’t been presented like this previously?

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/curiousconversationsaboutsex

In this episode, we explore two separate questions:

• Is the world built, shaped, or referenced, around male sexuality?
• If it is, then why is it so easy to find so many complaints about men and sexuality?

First, we rigorously (and often humorously) explore the ways that the world is, and isn’t, built around male sexuality. Two things can be true at the same time, after all. This then winds up telling us a lot about…

Secondly, why are they not always great at sex?

If you’re a sex or gender pioneer… or you’ve ever been or are going to be in relationship with a male-ish person… or a female-ish person, for that matter… you’re going to want to hear this episode.

Is there a wage gap? …It seems overwhelmingly likely that there is.

But what causes it? …Here’s where things get interesting.

Traditional thinking tells us it’s from a devaluing or outright hatred of women – or a prioritizing of men – that happens almost fractally from the individual level, through to the whole-of-society level. The wage gap is just another biproduct of living in a patriarchal world.

However, could the root cause actually be closer to home? Could it be a much younger problem?

This might seem like an academic distraction, but it’s not. If it turns out the traditional approach leads us to bark up the wrong tree, we stand no chance of solving the problem – which would seem like a strong motivator to make sure we get this correct.

Also, related: Where are all the women? Why do so many sectors struggle to get beyond about 33% female representation?

So… What, exactly, is the Patriarchy? Who, exactly is in it?

What is its purpose, and how’s it going against its Key Performance Indicators? Do we at some stage get to participate in some kind of a review process?

Is there a way we can get involved, and maybe change it from the inside?

Is it possible we’re already involved?

The default assumption is that a lot of the work we need to do to move forwards, needs to be done in gender-separate spaces.

Without a doubt, a lot of great work happens in those spaces.

Intriguing questions remain, however, around how we hold these spaces in a way that ensures they have positive outcomes for everyone, and don’t inadvertently contribute to the challenges they seek to solve.

How do we hear each others’ stories? How do we not other each other? How do we share our privileges?

…These questions, and so many more…

What exactly do we mean when we say ‘toxic masculinity’?

Where did it come from? (Hint: Closer to home than you think).

More importantly, what’s keeping it going? What do we need to do to stop it?

Can toxic masculinity, as a concept, lead us to world peace? Can it solve the gender war while it’s there? (Answer: Hell yes it can).

Today, we take the useful but politicised and weaponised perspective of privilege, and turn it into and even more useful perspective that leads us to understanding, peace, and solutions.
We start with a review of the current state of thinking, and articulate how that leads us to The Great Privilege Paradox. From there, we add nuance and complexity in a way that doesn’t negate our current thinking, but adds to it. We show how playfully tossing around the concept of privilege can make for great self-awareness, and we show that things are oh so much more nuanced than most people think.

A promise: No-one will get whacked over the head with a privilege-stick in this episode.

The gender revolution is one of the most important changes that’s ever happened in human culture. Its core intentions, its core missions, are undeniably needed.

Now that we’re 70 years into it, in some areas the gender revolution continues to progress. However, in other areas progress has slowed or stalled. Worse, in some areas we’re going backwards. After 70 years, the finish line is nowhere in sight.

I believe it’s time we considered why our progress is faltering, and what needs to change to bring about the next wave of the movement. At the broadest level, I suggest that historically we’ve mostly focussed on articulating and dealing with the problems after they’ve happened – what we need to do now is shift our attention to what’s causing the problems in the first place. This is going to take us into some radical and sometimes uncomfortable new territory, but it will lead us more directly to the just world we seek.

Well this is a rollicking romp of a conversation, in three parts.
I’m chatting with Dr Elliot, from https://myfirmtech.com/. Links are in the shownotes. Dr Elliot Justin has a background in emergency medicine, more recently specialising in sex and technology.
We started by having a chat about his product lines, which might be of a slightly narrower range of interest compared to what we normally cover, and it’s a bit more commercially-oriented than the usual vibe we go for here.
Then, about 24 mins in, we move into what I found to be a really interesting conversation about the broader future of AI and sex toys, which ranges from flights of fancy through to downright depressing. And you know how much I love the stuff others think of as depressing.
Finally, the last third is the conversation you have after you’ve recorded what you think you’re going to use, but then it turns out to be at least as interesting as what you were meant to be talking about. So I’ve left it in.

When I was recording it, I was going to chop things around and put the future-focussed philosophical stuff first, because I thought that the initial product info would be too narrow-cast.
But listening back, I think there might actually be something there for everyone, so I’m just going to leave the whole thing unedited, including the bit at the end that’s not meant to exist.

So here’s a conversation about cock rings, clitoris monitoring devices, health and heart-care, the future of robots and AI, the end of the species, and the problems with taking on an algorithm for happiness and hand-jobs. Good luck with that.

One word of warning: Generally, I try to avoid letting through language that assumes that people of a given gender have any particular genital type, as way of making the content inclusive.
In some ways, today’s show is a fail on that front. At the same time, there is some information here about how these products are very useful from a trans perspective, and it’s spoken about appropriately.
So, in some ways, today’s show is a win.

Australian distributors: melissa@rshealth.com.au

I’m still here. I still love you.
Since we last spoke, a lot of extraordinary things happened, resulting in me stopping workshops kind of abruptly, and selling The Practice Lab.
I will probably say more about all of that in a future episode, but for now, perhaps as a down-payment on some of that, let’s listen back all the way to 2017, with Barbara Carrellas and Cyndi Darnell.

So I’ll probably do an episode about that.
And I’m planning on doing a whole bunch of episodes after that on where I think the gender movement needs to go. Quietly excited.
But in truth, I’m doing one step at a time at the moment, and I have no idea what’s next. It’s ace. You should maybe try it. Or not.
But if you’re wondering if I’m dropping the podcast… At least at this point in time, no. Our love would appear to be safe, to the extent that love can ever be considered safe.

Rog from Curious Creatures is joined by:
Barbara Carrellas – World renowned author, workshop therapist, coach, adviser and speaker. Barbara has written many books, including the revolutionary ‘Urban Tantra’ and ‘Ecstasy is Necessary’. Find her at www.barbaracarrellas.com.
Cyndi Darnell – Therapist, facilitator, author and speaker. Cyndi has been a committed leader within the field of sexuality for decades and offers powerful therapeutic assistance in all matters related to sexuality and relationships. Find her at www.cyndidarnell.com.

Today, we’re chatting about gender, and how your identity is influenced by the events you experience in your life. The conversation is especially interested in how minority genders such as non-binary and trans identities are formed, and how there’s healthy and less than healthy ways that plays out.

My guest is Avgi Saketopoulou, who along with Ann Pellegrini, has recently written a book called “Gender without Identity”.

Gender Without Identity on Amazon: www.amazon.com.au/GENDER-WITHOUT-IDENTITY-Avgi-Saketopoulou/dp/1942254199

Curious Creatures: www.curiouscreatures.biz/

Curious Creatures forum: forum.curiouscreatures.biz/

Consent Cards: www.curiouscreatures.biz/consentcards.html.

Today, we talking about the Death Cult Club, Lomi Lomi, and Integrated Oncology with Alice Peebles. It includes a couple of side-journeys around consent and trauma-informed practice, and touches on Alice’s and Rog’s personal Death Cult Club Goals.

Oh, and some tips on how you can start your own Death Cult Club!

Links:

Alice’s Lomi Lomi practice (Upwey, Melbourne, Australia): www.blisstitute.com/vic-practitioners-lomilomi-massage

Melbourne Integrative Oncology Group: www.miog.com.au/meet-the-miog-team.html

Curious Creatures / Curious Conversations About Sex: www.curiouscreatures.biz/

Today, answering the question, of what to do when things go wrong – especially when you’re topping.

To answer it, I’m back with Seani Love, an award-winning sex-worker and workshop facilitator. The conversation comes across like you’ve walked in on a couple of kinky therapists having a chat, which is precisely what it is – a nuanced deep-dive into exactly what emotional safety looks like in practice, from a couple of folks that have made mistakes and learned from them.

You can find Seani at www.seanilove.com.
Curious Creatures: www.curiouscreatures.biz
Curious Creatures forum: forum.curiouscreatures.biz
Consent Cards: www.curiouscreatures.biz/consentcards.html.

Lee Harrington, who’s been on the show a couple of times previously, has recently written the book “Becoming Your Own Beloved”. It’s a wild investment in yourself, and a radical piece of activism against some modern dilemmas.

Lee and Rog talk self-care, gender, lateral violence in minority gender groups, and some good old life philosophy.

Lee’s book: https://www.amazon.com.au/Become-Your-Own-Beloved-Self-Connection/dp/1637589034

Curious Creatures: https://www.curiouscreatures.biz/

Curious Creatures forum: https://forum.curiouscreatures.biz/

Consent Cards: https://www.curiouscreatures.biz/consentcards.html

Today, I’m doing a reaction video to a Jordan Peterson interview, except without the video. So I’m just having a reaction, I guess.

In the original interview, which I’ll link to in the shownotes, Jordan is speaking about sex, consent, and sex outside of marriage. On top of that, I want to add another couple of thoughts on things Jordan at the end.

Heads up, this is mostly just me disagreeing with Jordan, but not all of it. He raises some good points, and honestly, it’d be interesting to get his take on a few things without the intensity of the polarised social media landscape he exists in; so much of what he says is a polarised response to a polarised attack, and it can be hard to actually get a sense of a person with all that noise.

Link to original interview: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6spdAstl34A&t=1s&ab_channel=JohnAnderson

Link to the Curious Creatures forum: forum.curiouscreatures.biz/

Link to Consent Cards: www.curiouscreatures.biz/consentcards.html

A revisit of comments Rog made in the last episode, particularly around a criticism of the grass-roots Christian movement. (This is one of those rare times where we strongly recommend you listen to that episode first).

Link to two-day workshop ‘Adventurous Touch and Intimacy’: www.curiouscreatures.biz/adventurous-touch-and-intimacy.html

Link to the Curious Creatures forum: forum.curiouscreatures.biz/

Link to Consent Cards: www.curiouscreatures.biz/consentcards.html

Today, we’re getting back to our journalistic roots, and exposing one of Australia’s biggest sex scandals. You might be wondering why an otherwise light and accessible sexuality podcast would venture into such territory, however the editorial team here at Curious Conversations About Sex felt that if we’re to explore the positive elements of sex, then perhaps it’s important that we provide a contextual reference point regarding what you might regard as the dark underbelly of the movement.

The most wild thing about the sex scandal that we’re delving into today, is that it’s been happening in plain sight, right under your nose… for decades. By exploiting a legal grey area and posing as something that it clearly isn’t, it’s managed to somehow avoid the attention of regulators, law enforcement, and a largely unsuspecting public… Until now.

Link to Two-Day Immersion Version of Adventurous Touch And Intimacy: https://www.curiouscreatures.biz/adventurous-touch-and-intimacy-2-day.html

Today, I’ve hand-selected a bonus episode for you.

It’s from the podcast ‘Come As You Are’, and it’s about your hardware – by which I mean, your genitals, junk, hoo-har, your funky fandangle, whatever it is you call it.

More specifically, it’s about how all of our genitals have things in common, and how we all get formed from the same stock. I love that stuff, how it breaks down a lot of the idea that we’re like completely separate and incomparable creatures, based on our genitals, with no experiences or problems in common.

The episode starts with a listener calling in to ask about their partner’s bent dick, but it quickly expands out to include other genital configurations in a nice and body-positive way.